Changing Fandoms and Freeforms

[pumpkinkingmod]

Do any participants with fandoms whose AO3 canonical titles don't start with Latin characters want their fandoms changed so that they start with either the transliteration or the English title so that they appear in the proper place on the AO3 requests page?

Fic/Art and Tricks/Treats are now all in the relationship section.  They have been combined so that you could theoretically do something like request Trick - Fic and Treat - Art without having to worry about getting the other two.

You may notice that there are now five freeform tags:
-I am interested in extra gifts for the community challenge that don't fit my requests.
-I am not interested in extra gifts for the community challenge that don't fit my requests.
-I am not interested in receiving extra gifts.
-You may ignore my Art/Fic preferences for extra gifts.
-You may ignore my Trick/Treat preferences for extra gifts.

These tags are not going to be used for matching and are an easy way to opt in and out of certain parts of Trick or Treat so that those interested in giving extra gifts know if you are interested in getting them.

"I am interested in extra gifts for the community challenge that don't fit my requests."
This means you are interested in getting extra gifts that fit the community challenge that don't perfectly fit your requests.  It does not give someone permission to ignore your Do Not Wants.

"I am not interested in extra gifts for the community challenge that don't fit my requests."
This means you are only interested in extra gifts that fit what you have in your requests.

"I am not interested in receiving extra gifts."
-This means that you aren't interested in receiving any extra gifts.  You will not be counted towards any goals of getting x number of gifts per participant.  You may still end up getting multiple gifts if multiple participants are assigned to you.

"You may ignore my Art/Fic preferences for extra gifts."
If you requested only one, you are interested in the other for extra gifts as well.  These extra gifts can not be counted as your main gift if your giver defaults.

"You may ignore my Trick/Treat preferences for extra gifts."
If you requested only one, you are interested in the other for extra gifts as well.  These extra gifts can not be counted as your main gift if your giver defaults.

Comments

[morbane]

I like the idea of the new freeform tags!

[(Anonymous)]

This is very nice!

Roughly how "doesn't fit my requests" should I imagine gifts that "don't fit my requests"? Ignores optional details (sans DNWs obvs) level, or ignores requested characters/fandoms level?

[(Anonymous)]

No, I find it far easier to find them under their original name all bunched together than under whatever Latin character someone else decided to sort them under. I don't even know the English name for many, or know a different English name or whatever. Let Unicode sort them.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd vote for leaving the fandoms with non-Latin characters where they are. A lot of people know them by their untranslated names, or know them by different English translations, and having them in a different place just for one exchange could be really confusing. I'd also argue that they already are in the 'proper' place on the AO3 requests page, at least more so than things starting 'The' being sorted under T.

[(Anonymous)]

"I am interested in extra gifts for the community challenge that don't fit my requests."
This means you are interested in getting extra gifts that fit the community challenge that don't perfectly fit your requests. It does not give someone permission to ignore your Do Not Wants.

I don't like this wording in the slightest, and I don't think the do/don't versions of this question should be options unless this is free-for-all permission not to fulfill *any* of the minimum requirements of a person's requests, including DNWs. Otherwise, how does this differ from any other gift or treat I might give/receive? Is the expectation of someone who doesn't check this box that they receive gifts which *exactly* fit their requests, including optional details?

[(Anonymous)]

Do any participants with fandoms whose AO3 canonical titles don't start with Latin characters want their fandoms changed so that they start with either the transliteration or the English title so that they appear in the proper place on the AO3 requests page?
Yes. I find it very confusing to try and find those fandoms in Unicode sorting, and a lot of my east Asian fandoms don't have the original title in the canonical on AO3 anyway, even some of the more recent ones. It's inconsistent, along with the fact that fandom pages don't sort in Unicode order, and that makes it even more confusing to find them in a tags list or requests page (and in a big exchange, it's annoying to search through several pages of fandoms with non-latin names for the ones I know).

[marsdragon]

I'm cool with specifically the Castlevania games being sorted under C. They all only have one English title and the Castlevania name started migrating back into Japanese in the 00s anyway, plus how AO3 handles the entire mess is inconsistent in the first place. (Harmony of Dissonance gets to be sorted right...but Lament of Innocence gets an 悪魔城ドラキュラ it didn't even have in Japanese added on because ???)

Shin Megami Tensei's another one where the non-English characters could get dropped, but it's not nearly as inconsistent about it as Castlevania.

[silex]

"I am interested in extra gifts for the community challenge that don't fit my requests."

I like this as an opt-in. Maybe I'm weird, but this seems to work really well for when people aren't sure if something's going to exactly meet what I or the person I'm writing for wants and that's like such a nice weight off of me - like I can write a treat and then write them an extra treat that's not as close to what they asked for or uses a character that they didn't mention or didn't DNW.

[tally]

Just wanted to pop in and say as an artist I am thrilled that people will have the option to easily indicate they're okay with art as extra gifts. That's a really great idea!