trickortreatex | Most of the Tagset is Processed

I want to give a huge thank you to Shadow Lover and Zdenka for their help on the tagset. Without them it would not be in anywhere as close to a done state as it is.

Here is the tagset. Other than our final questions all this needs is taking care of wanderers, associating a few unassociated characters, deleting duplicates, and other house keeping tasks. If you see errors or you see a group that isn't a vague group of characters that aren't defined in canon please tell us.

We have a few more questions:

Get Out (2017)
Andre Logan King – Did you want Andre Hayworth, the original person, or Logan King, the person possessing Andre’s body?

Highlander: The Series
Adam – Do mean Methos | Adam Pierson or someone else?

John Dies at the End - David Wong
Shadow People (John Dies at the End) – We are having trouble confirming that they are a vague group without clearly defined characters.

Peter Pan - J. M. Barrie
Lost Boys (Peter Pan) – Is this a vague group without clearly defined characters?

The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien
The Mewlips (Silm) – Would this be better moved to a different fandom?

What We Do in the Shadows (2014)
Werewolf Pack (What We Do in the Shadows) – Is this a vague group without clearly defined characters?

Wreck-It Ralph (Movies)
Bad Anons - Is this a vague group without clearly defined characters?

Экипаж | Flight Crew (2016)
Viktoriya (Flight Crew) – Did you mean Vika?

The Protomen (band)

The Protomen (band)
Dr. Light (Protomen)
Dr. Wily (Protomen)
Emily (Protomen)
Joe (The Protomen)
Megaman (Protomen)
Protoman (Protomen)
-Would this make more sense to change this to The Protomen album instead of the band itself?

X-Men - All Media Types
Erik Lehnsherr
Illyana Rasputin
Lockheed
Madelyne Pryor
Magda (X-Men)
Pietro Maximoff
-We won’t be accepting this fandom. Would you like the nominations moved to Marvel 616?

Rusty Quill Gaming (Podcast)
Apophis
Chief
Pierre Henri
-We can’t confirm the existence of these characters.

Star Wars Sequel Trilogy
Armitage Hux's Mother
Brendol Hux
-Where do these characters appear in the movies?

Tea House (Gmail Theme)
Ghost 1 (Tea House)
Ghost 2 (Tea House)
Ghost 3 (Tea House)
-Can you confirm which ghost you meant with each number?

The Hobbit (Jackson Movies)
Lírien (Hobbit movies) – Did you mean the unnamed girl that plays the harp?

The Last Halloween (Webcomic)
Slugger
Splitter
-We are having trouble confirming the existence of these characters.

This is the one warning for all anonymous commenters. Keep it civil on the Trick or Treat community or I will turn on screening for anon comments.

Threaded | Top-Level Comments Only

From:

desertvixen

You all rock! I missed the exchange last year because of moving, so I am super excited for this year.

From:

mlravenwrites

Not the nominator, but the Bad Anons group is a distinct group of characters. Some aren't named on-screen, but are identifiably certain characters (antagonists) from classic video games.

From:

lynndyre

Not my nom, but The Mewlips are from 'The Adventures of Tom Bombadil', which is a poetry collection rather than the Silm book, but it is Tolkien's poetry and related to Middle Earth worldbuilding, so it might fall under the umbrella of the 'other histories' part of the Silm category?

From:

morbane

What We Do in the Shadows (2014)
Werewolf Pack (What We Do in the Shadows) – Is this a vague group without clearly defined characters?

This is not my nomination, but it refers to a distinct group we see on screen which has mostly un-named members.

From: (Anonymous)

Not my nom, but all the Lost Boys in Barrie's work are named and distinct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Boys_(Peter_Pan)#In_Barrie's_original_works

From: (Anonymous)

Hello, I found what appear to be some duplicate tags.

Van Helsing (TV 2016) has both "Axel Miller" and "Axel Miller (Van Helsing TV )"

Westworld (TV) has both "Teddy Flood" and "Teddy Flood (Westworld TV)"

From:

naemsie

Not from your list, but I noticed that many characters nominated for Law & Order: SVU read "Character (Super Vacation Ultra)." Just fyi.

From:

pumpkinkingmod

AO3 wrangles disambiguated tags to other fandoms. It takes more work to later fix a tag after it wanders than it does to change the tag when accepting it. To amuse myself I used ridiculious disambiguations for these fandoms that are prone to wandering. If it is so off the wall that it has never been used in the archive then there is no way that it could wander. Most of these share initials with the fandom, make a reference to the fandom, or otherwise amuse me. In this case "Super Vacation Ultra" has the initials SVU.

From:

naemsie

Ah! Now I get the ridiculous disambiguations business! I fail, lol. Thanks for the explanation. And also thanks for running this exchange again!

From: (Anonymous)

I nommed “Lost Boys” for Peter Pan, as the other anon said, in canon they all have names, but it’s a group that also changes over time with different boys coming and going before and after the canon events. I was leaning more to nom the later idea of a group rather than any specific Lost Boy.

Would “Original Lost Boy Character” be better?

From: (Anonymous)

"Ash Williams (Ash vs Evil Dead)" from the "Ash vs Evil Dead (TV)" category has wandered into the "Evil Dead (Movies)" category, which already has an Ash of its own in the form of "Ash Williams (ED M)". Poor Ash, he spends so much time fighting copies of himself in canon and now he has to do it in the tag set too. :D

From: (Anonymous)

Also, "Brandy Barr" appears to have wandered between those categories as well. She only appeared in the TV series, not the movies.

From: (Anonymous)

I just noticed that Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell (TV) has two Vinculus characters. Vinculi. There is both 'Vinculus (JS&MN TV)' and 'Vinculus (Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell)'.

Also, I don't suppose it matters but just in case it does, for the Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell - Susanna Clarke characters under Books and Literature, some of the disambiguation has Mr. Norrell (with a full stop) and some don't.

Thank you for all your work with the tagset!

From: (Anonymous)

They only appear in the group setting in the movie and don't have any plot outside the (brief) meetings, though. We don't know if the members we see are the only members, if the membership ever changes, etc.

I was hoping to request fic about the support group itself and not specific members within it, and definitely not specific members potentially doing other things. Obviously if it's not in it's not in, but that was my reasoning!

From:

hearthouses

Get Out nominator here–I did mean Andre Hayworth. Before nominating, I double checked with IMDB and wikipedia, but their info was clearly incorrect. Sorry, and thank you for all the work you're doing!

From:

elwinfortuna

Also not the nominator, but I agree with this.

From:

elwinfortuna

I didn't nominate Lírien but I think that is indeed the fanon name for the girl that plays the harp in Rivendell. I believe last year she was nominated as Rivendell Harp Girl.

From: (Anonymous)

Link (BotW) appears to have wandered over into Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

From: (Anonymous)

Angelica Schuyler (Hamilton - Miranda) has somehow wandered into 18th Century CE RPF!

From:

elegantstupidity

I noticed a couple duplicate tags in Pitch (TV 2016). There are two each of Ginny Baker and Livan Duarte.

From: (Anonymous)

Duplicate - Disney Princesses has both Cinderella (DP) and Cinderella (Cinderella 1950).

Also, thank you for everything you do!

From: (Anonymous)

I'm not the nominator for Экипаж | Flight Crew (2016), but Viktoriya and Vika are the same. The character is listed as Vika on English wiki and Viktoriya on Russian wiki.

From:

gloss

Star Wars Sequel Trilogy
Armitage Hux's Mother
Brendol Hux
-Where do these characters appear in the movies?
They don't. They appear in tie-in novel(s) only.

From: (Anonymous)

Hi, I'm the nominator for The Last Halloween. Splitter and Slugger are introduced in these two pages:

https://www.last-halloween.com/posts/120
https://www.last-halloween.com/posts/121

From: (Anonymous)

I'm not the nominator, but it probably makes the most sense to move those X-Men nominations to Marvel 616, as I don't think this combination of characters all exist in any other continuity. Madelyne Pryor and Illyana Rasputin are already in, though (the latter as Illyana Rasputina).

From:

iberiandoctor

Sorry, I think some of the X-Men AMT nominations were from me. Happy to move them to 616! Many thanks!

From:

pumpkinkingmod

Both are fixed. The funny thing is that "Ash Williams (Ash vs Evil Dead)" isn't associated with "Ash vs Evil Dead (TV)" on AO3's end. That was a manual association.

From:

pumpkinkingmod

Thanks. Just to make things simpler I deleted the one and let the other sit in both.

From:

pumpkinkingmod

Fixed.

From:

pumpkinkingmod

Fixed

From:

pumpkinkingmod

Fixed

From:

pumpkinkingmod

Which novel?

From:

gloss

I had to look it up (I'm a film-only fan), and here you go:
Servants of the Empire: The Secret Academy
Aftermath: Life Debt
Aftermath: Empire's End
Bloodline (Mentioned only)
Phasma
Star Wars: The Last Jedi: Expanded Edition (Mentioned only)

From:

pumpkinkingmod

Fixed

From:

pumpkinkingmod

As a compromise I accepted it as "Any Member of the Bad Anons".

From:

pumpkinkingmod

Fixed

From:

pumpkinkingmod

I put them in Aftermath until the nominator responds. Thank you for doing the extra research.

From:

citrinesunset

My apologies if this isn't the right place to bring this up, but I've noticed that when I try to enter a sign-up request for Inception (2010), the characters Dom Cobb (Inception) and Mal Cobb (Inception) don't show up as options to select even though it shows that they're included in the tagset. This isn't a critical issue for me, but I wanted to bring it up in case there's some sort of glitch you should be aware of. Thanks!